The Aussie Shaman's Path: Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energies for Conscious Creation

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Ready to start your journey? Let's dive in. So I'm super excited today to have the most incredible person sharing with us. I met Scott in Bali on a retreat and our energy just connected instantly.

I had the pleasure of working with him as part of the retreat and learning about what he does. And I think it must have just been a few weeks ago, this little thing popped up on my Instagram. It's like, you should connect with the Aussie shaman.

And I was like, the Aussie shaman. And so we reconnected by call the other day. And yeah, we've actually got some really exciting things in the pipeline now together.

And I would love to talk into a little bit around why on Mayu today. So do you want to give a quick intro to who you are and what you do? Hi. Yeah.

So Scott, Aussie shaman. I started off studying physical massage after I had a guy sort of helped me out with extreme pain when I was in my early twenties. It was like suicidal from pain in the mining industry.

I actually started out as a diesel mechanic from a small country town in Queensland, Australia. And then I was meant to get 21 shoulder surgeries and cortisone and scraping stuff out that doctors and that people of the medical industry couldn't explain what that one's going to scrape out. They're just going to scrape it out.

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Yeah. And then I threw a Hail Mary pass one day. I drove past after a night shift of, yeah, 14 hour night shift, including travel, passed a sign that said the, what was it? Two deadly hands is an Aboriginal painting and said two deadly hands.

And I walked in, I was like tired as all fuck. And there's this white guy in there, like this Australian as Australian old white guy. And I was like, I am like, I don't know what the hell is going on, but I'm going to get a massage.

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And within that one hour, I had no more like pain in my shoulders. And I was just like, you know, for two weeks, came back up in two weeks. I had no pain for a month.

And he's like, you know, you don't need surgery. Please do not. It'll, it'll be worse.

So, you know, fast forward a few years after that, I got into remedial massage. Because that was the easiest way to figure out whether I'd like it. And then I owned a business, got business coaches, business coaches were doing things with mindset while they were teaching massage therapists and physical therapists how to run a business.

Because most energy workers and, you know, empathetic people are crap with business, because you got to take the emotions out of it to business, and then try and put the emotions back in to be, you know, connect with your clients. But they were doing things called NLP, like neuro linguistic programming, at at our retreats that we went to, you know, quarterly. And I was like, picking up on these words and these emotions going down.

And I was like, and someone that was a complete aggressive person, or like just not getting it. And all of a sudden, they'd be the most beautiful person. And that changed from that one moment.

And I was like, something's going on with how they're talking here. So then I started taking this talking that this husband and wife were doing and putting it into my massages, my physical massages, because all I was doing was physical stuff at that point. So then I started hypnotizing people and using certain phrases, and certain energy to the way I was saying those phrases and people's bodies were just relaxing through the conversation.

And I was just like, mind blown. Like, right. So after through that, I found some of the best energy workers in the country.

And then, you know, started going to retreats like Zach Dixon, the retreat that we met on, Zach was a breakthrough coach for this group, like for people that were struggling hard. So I did a bit of work with him. And through that, I met some of the best NLP people in the country in the world.

And yeah, it's just a rabbit hole from I want to get out of pain and learn a little bit of physical massage to spiritualism, shamanism, masculine, feminine dynamics. Yeah, and way away from being a diesel mechanic. So way away from being, but you know, like, I mean, that's the hook for this, this podcast is that masculine feminine balance.

Yeah. You know, because most people don't have that. Most people have a very imbalanced energy within them.

And, and that's very normalized by society, too. It's very like, and you got to get this through that both men and women have masculine and feminine sense. And it's written around about in every ancient or religious text, like the yin, the yang, you know, the dark, the light, you know, even even to like other religious like, like, the devil and God, it's just yin and yang.

You know, like, that's all it is, we got to take the fact the devil is a demon and the God is a male figure, or whatever, just go, it's an energy. Like the devil energy or the dark energy is like, I'm going to get this done to a point, you know, and the God energy is like, we're going to keep it open minded and just keep flowing. So something that occurred to me after our conversation, or maybe I said it on our conversation.

So in ancient Egypt, there was actually a third energy. So there wasn't just yin and yang, there was actually so that like masculine feminine child, because integrate the dark with the light, and you have creation. So there was this this third energy.

Yeah. And when you look at ancient Egypt, it's like COVID online, there's one source of truth, you go searching for stuff around Egyptian mythology, ancient Egypt. And there's one source of truth, it comes out of the museum books.

And that's it. And there's not really much got right. And you wouldn't find that you wouldn't find the third energy being the child being the creation being the fact that there is nothing but goodness to integrating these two sides of energy, because it does lead to luminosity, to light, to creation, to new creation.

And I really feel this whole one source of truth is exactly to do with that, how much power can we take away from people in terms of their creativity and creation? Because when you're empowered in your creativity and creation, you're not actually disempowered and attached to all the systems that we've had that keeps, you know, an ordered society. So I feel like this conversation is so powerful. I'm so excited.

I've got so many things. Yeah, like, talk to me. So it's just like, you know, when you boil up to a new discovery, a new idea, right? It's like, we could just get on a roll.

And it is science and scientific people. And I love the way quantum science has come into quantum physics is just blown physics, science in the best direction. If you look up something called the double slit experiment with light, you know, and the eye of the observer, like how the person observing the way it thinks the light particle should perform, actually makes the light particle perform the way the observer wants it.

And science, like your projection, your perception. So if you want to look at a child or another person, if you're more empowered than a person's, and what came to me the other day was, if someone lacks self love, and you're judging them, you're going to put your perception into them because their lack of self love, like, that depth of self love is actually a chess plate that keeps other people's opinions out. If you don't have any self love, you have no chess play.

And you're actually letting opinions in to try and figure out how to grow 100%. But if you're only if you're only open to negative opinions, you're just like, yeah, you're your own worst enemy because of no internal self love. 100%.

Yeah, 100%. And if we think about that integration, masculine, feminine creation, the child, that's all about love. Yeah, because it's like it when you take away the projection, and you look at the dark and the light and say, the darkness comes from your history.

And that is, you know, as we know, and we'll talk about this a little later, too, we go back a long, long time in these lives that we've carried through in this memory that our bodies hold of these experiences that have given us that projection of what is good and bad, right? Yeah, yeah. But when you take away the projection of good and bad, and you bring together in unconditional love, in absolute self trust, trust in the universe, you know, and all being one, like, what do you get? Like, what, what do you get? You just get the constant evolution, right? Right. Right.

But that's where you get the divine ego that comes in as people get attached to I'm the most important person, or I've come up with like a God like idea, or God came through me, and I just gave the right answer. So people want to walk around as God going, I've got the truth. And that's when divine ego comes in and goes, I'm going to shut everyone down now, we're going to stop creating because I'm at the top.

Wow. I want my moment of power. And I'm going to hold on to this.

And then you become the dictator or the devil comes in and start saying, No, I'm God. Like I am the God energy. But when you start trying to convince people that you're better, like, you're trying to convince yourself, actually, that you are still that.

But that, that energy is actually slipped out, and your egos come in, or the egos come in. But you said those two words the other day, divine egos, like, we have to talk about this. Yeah.

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Like, we have to talk about this. Because that actually is when we're looking at healthy expression of the masculine energy. It's this self safe container that stops us looking outside for validation.

Right? It's like, it's like pure, you know, I am. Yeah, I just am. Yeah.

Yeah. Is this and neutrality and inner safety and security? Yeah. But you're right, like this, I experienced this when, so my identity shifted so much from my, my internal work, you know, from my, from my, my journey with unconditional love, that I had that inevitable tower moment, you know, where life on the outside starts to shift to the vibration on the inside.

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And if you're not in surrender, you could say, Oh, my gosh, everything's falling apart, when it's in fact, aligning, and I could see the alignment. But I also could also start to really identify very quickly, how many fears, this falling apart, aligning together was bringing up. I call that cutting the fat.

It's just like, who am I, but then you're covered in all this, like your mum, your dad, your school, the community that you grew up in saying you need to do this, the good and the bad thing, you need to do this to be a great part of the community, you need to do this to be a good girl, or a good boy, you need to do this to be, to get, and it's actually the tower moment you're talking about, I believe is, it's like, you might be a pyramid, but you're turning into a tower, right? And you're just cutting off all those edges that other people's beliefs that you've let in to survive, to get to this point. 100%. And for me, it was very much around this idea of mum.

Because, you know, and again, part of that tower moment was coming into this expression of me, you know, like, sexuality, creativity, coming away from these bloody things that I've done to keep me safe. But then I think it was the divine ego. Or maybe you can correct me on this.

It was like, my ego attached itself to these ideals that it had around safety and security in relation to my children, which for a little while then started to build more towers. You know, it's like I was attaching on a certain way that things had to fall apart and come back together again. So that I could stay safe, specifically in this role.

Like, this went to a really deep level of challenging my trust. Because it wasn't just for me, it was for these three little humans that I brought into the world, right? And it was, I felt myself and it took a while to notice, but I did notice. Yeah, I'm attaching to my ego's ideal of how things have to fucking fall apart and come back together again.

Yeah. And to make it easier for people, you can think of your ego as your brain. Your mind above that, which is your energy field, which is connected to the spiritual field, you know, and your mind knows more past life, this life, the truth, you know, which is like your crown chakra, but then you have your brain.

But your brain remembers patterns from this life. And it's, and it's watching and it's, it's, you know, you have seven filters in your brain and you're going to think like at any one moment, you've got 4 million bits of information coming in through your feel, your smell, your eyes, your hearing, and only 120 bits get stuck in your seven filters. So at one point your brain can only compute 120 bits of this 4 million bits.

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But your greater mind knows, your greater mind is, is, is knowing all those bits, right? That's when you can surrender, you can start tapping into more bits per second. That's right. Yeah.

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So, but the brain, it only remembers systems and procedures from this life. So as you grow older, like, you know, you might do a lot of work, like when you're 20 or 25 or whatever, and be like, I'm healed. But then you get to 30, 35, and you got a few children, your brain then goes, it taps back into when my mum was 25 or 35, how did she deal with a child? So when you're tired, or you haven't got any food, or, you know, you've dropped out of your meditative state, your brain takes over and it goes, what have I seen in this life that worked to keep a child alive? And then it goes, I'm the child that's alive, I'm going to do what mum did.

Even if it's fucking shithouse pattern, you know? Sorry, mum. Yeah, you know, and I fall back into that all the time, like, God, I'm acting like my parents, you know, but and then you're gonna send love that they're only doing what they knew with the tools that they had, and they're only copying behaviour that they saw that worked, right? So you got to send love to that, not hate that, fuck, they taught me a crap pattern. But the most self love you can give to yourself is when is is, and I'm working through this with my partner at the moment is being able to observe that behaviour in yourself comes from a greater mind.

You're not going mad when you're starting to third person yourself. Like clinical psychology goes, you're going crazy because you can hear voices. Guess what? We can all hear fucking voices in our head.

That's your yin and your yang. And if you can tap out and observe the conversation between the two sides of your brain, that's your mind, your spiritual self, you know, observing. So if you can start doing that and learning where you are in that dynamic, you're actually starting to evolve and become spiritual.

But people don't wake up to that and go, I want to be the observer more and not one of those sides taking action. And I want to observe the right action, discern, discernment, like learning discernment of what's the right action to take, or can we create a middle path? Thank you ego for your opinion. Thank you divinity for your opinion.

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What's a path that I want? Through the middle. So interestingly, the deeper I went into my shamanism, the more I actually came away from that into full, it was like temperance. Almost like an obedience to say, actually, I really don't have a say because I started to, it was like receptivity.

You know, something would come into my world or an experience would happen. And I recognize that this was an opportunity to see the projection of light and dark or, you know, where I was holding those crappy patterns or belief systems. And it was like, I would allow the experience to like, yeah, almost fall into flow with the experience, surrender with the experience and yeah, almost take what I was always meant to take.

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And then you become an obedience, right? And this is where, again, and this all, this really Surrender, full surrender. And it's fucking scary. This is it.

It hit a crux at around the same time. I was recognizing that I'd attached to these ideals and I had a massive crisis of faith. It was almost like I was there to spirit right now.

Really? I was like, fuck this shit. Like, I'm not, I don't want to be in this journey anymore. I don't want any more loss.

I don't want any more awakening. I don't want any more pain, you know? And it's like, I remember I was down on a beach here in New Zealand and I went down to the rocks and I like, if I could have screamed out loud, I would have screamed out loud in my head. I was screaming out loud.

Fuck you, spirit. Fuck this shit. I'm out.

I'm done. I can't do this anymore. And I was crumbling.

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I was like almost in the fetal position, perched on the end of this rock with the waves all crashing around me. And then all of a sudden everything went still. And I realized that there is no out.

There is only now. And I suddenly had this like, you know, I don't know, I felt guilty for trying to jump ship and I picked up the water in my hands and I drank the sea water. And I felt like, you know, that was a number of times across those coming weeks where I remember the oneness.

I felt the oneness. I realized the mainframe that we are plugged into that goes two ways. It's not just I'm taking from this.

I'm not just- Sometimes you're thinking you're going to kill part of yourself and surrender. Always. Always.

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Scream out and don't let the rage and don't let the anger out. Like every little last bit of it. So it can't like that seed can't keep growing.

But it's like, you know, like squeeze every part of your body and scream out, right? Or get on a fucking bag. Because this is what had happened, Scott. Like full dissociation from the body.

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And let it go. Yeah. Full dissociation from the body.

Again, it was a realization. I was like, whoa, it almost been like I'd been sat in like my etheric, I don't know what you call it. I've come out of my body.

I was somewhere up here and I needed to ground back in. And like, that's so powerful what you just said, because when we allow ourselves to feel those emotions, light, dark, you might consider the anger as darkness. You come deep into your body and you start to shift some of this shit that we've been holding onto.

You know, we start to like, you know, remember the power in the darkness. Hathor, goddess Hathor. I mean, she brought bloody, you know, floods into villages and droughts into other villages because she had this fiery, solar, masculine part to her, but creatively channeled.

It was powerfully supported and supportive. The anger and the rage is if you take the negative connotations through society, that anger and rage is bad. And you say it is just an energy that has a purpose in a place.

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That's right. But a higher developed mind knows how to use that energy and can direct that energy. If you don't practice, like you do Muay Thai, I do Muay Thai, right? You know, that's funny.

It's another thing we connected on. But learning how to embody that anger, let that anger come through, but keep your mind sharp and then go, I'm done with that now. And then switch that out.

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But that's a skill on its own, choosing an energy. And that energy can, like, you can lose yourself to it 100%. But if you train it to come in and out, you can train it to come in and out by choice.

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Isn't that the child? Like going back to the yin, the yang, the darkness, the light, the masculine, the female, the creative, like you're saying about that anger, that's the child. That is the creative expression of something that integrated, you know, angry, bad, not angry, good. Integrated is the expression.

Like if we go to like the, what would you say? The child, like the third energy. So masculine, feminine, masculine, feminine, child. The child is the expression.

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Yeah. Everything's got a purpose. Like when children are just themselves and they haven't started going, how do I please mom? How do I please dad? That's where your left brain and the right brain.

How do I please the masculine? How do I please the feminine, right? Do you know what came up for me was how do I get permission from the masculine? How do I get validated by dad? With mom, it was like, how do I stay alive? It was like, because, you know, my relationship was such, she had mental issues. She was kind of not, yeah. She struggled to look after herself.

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That was the sad thing. My mother was the masculine and also the same thing. How do I stay alive? But she was the masculine.

She put dad in front. And dad just ran away all the time. Oh really? He was either at work or building something or, you know, off on a charity event.

You know, like he just wasn't around. And he was just afraid. So my mom was the masculine and she was like, you know, super crazy.

And I was like, shit, how do I stay alive with that? Which is great because she taught me how to be very hyper aware of when an ego is in the room and someone was about to change state, like before they changed state. You mean like dangerously? Dangerously or just energetically or even good. Like, because my mom would be like, lose herself to rage and then rage at me and then be like, snap out of it, like bipolar and go, why are you crying? And if I said that you just hit me, she'd be like, no, I didn't.

I'll give you something to slap about. And she'd hit me again. So I couldn't tell the truth.

You know, These memories held in our body of how we interpret these beautiful, innate, natural energies that integrated, have this beautiful, creative expression and purpose that does ascend, that does evolve humanity. We're not meant to be, not meant to be shoved in these boxes that we're shoved into as men and women. Right.

It's like you say, remembering that all of us, both masculine and feminine, have masculine and feminine energy within us. We will all have some fucked up beliefs as to what that means in terms of how we stay safe and how we stay alive. And that comes into the physical and biological self where if you have a belief that I can't do that energy, you actually shut down your brain sends a signal through your neurology to your stomach or your, yeah, your stomach to bring up emotions because your emotions are created in your stomach, right? Like in your, in your gut.

So then it puts the biology back to the brain, which is the energy for the state. And then you get this, then the brain goes yet more, I'm listening yet more. And then you change your ideas because you're getting serotonin and dopamine.

Like that's like, we're going up. We're getting on the uppers, you know, or it starts getting cortisol and stress. And it's like, shit, we need to freak out.

What do we do when we freak out? We start hyperventilating, taking shorter breath. Now the brain's turned off because you've got no breath. Right.

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So if you get these labels of, don't do that energy, do this energy, or you need to be like this all the time, like you need to be like this all the time, or you need to be like those people, right? So you get this idea. How do I be like that person? Your brain and gut can actually turn off a lot of critical processes at a young age and forget how to be happy. So you feel like far out, like you're just describing society because what does society does? Labels everything.

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Gives everything a role, a responsibility, you know, a certain way of being. Chuck in where society has gone with all of this fricking social media and entertainment and, you know, the hits, the short-term gratification that we're running at all of the time because of exactly that. Where's my phone? I need a menu.

I need a menu. Because we don't know how to be happy. I don't have a gut anymore.

So I need this. The phone's your gut. Wow.

Disconnect it quick. Put it on my head. The head.

It's like the brain's taken over and you've actually got no body of feeling. That's scary. Yeah.

Oh God, it makes me sick. And then, let's throw this into the mix pot. Then you've got people out there who will scorn over somebody like you and I connecting with shamanism.

And, you know, that is kind of weird because when you go into what the roots of shamanism is, it is the depth of connecting to the wisdom of nature. You know, the ability to just be in the presence of spirit and listen fully in the way that that just takes the whole, you know, like the brain's not, you know, switched onto its survival mode. It's in this beautiful, open, connected, alpha brainwave, dreamlike state where we go into these altered states.

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Yeah, it is. Which is the ultimate creativity problem solving. You're in an alpha brainwave inside a theta brain state.

You're like, because you are the hero in your own story, which is an alpha brainwave in a theta brainwave. Does that make sense? Because you're going to be in a theta to be like, you know, to astro travel, right? To be in that deepest state. But you're in the alpha because you're like, you know, I'm still making my own choices.

That's crazy. Oh, it's, it's, I mean, the problems I have solved in that state are mind blowing. And, and, you know, and I think, right.

And like I say, it's hearing the, and this is where it comes back to that dynamic receptivity, hearing the things that I don't know that from my subconscious, I don't know that from my programming. I don't know that from my past. Yeah, from your conscious, or yeah, from this brain, this body, right? Yeah.

It's coming from the wisdom of, of the earth. Yeah. I mean, cause, cause I've, I'm subconsciously like my, my soul's been doing it my whole life.

Like it just takes off and goes and heals people, back and does a download. Like sometimes round, like, you know, it's like, I'm, I'm an airhead for a couple of weeks. And all of a sudden I'm like, oh, I need to connect with someone.

I call them and they're like, don't talk to me. But it's like, they've known it's like, they've felt my energy with them for a few weeks and we haven't even spoken for a while. And then my, my, my soul comes back and it does a download.

Oh, you just went and healed, healed them for a couple of weeks. But if I send them a message, they freak out. Or, you know, they've actually said like, yeah, you were connected with me the whole time.

Like you were, you were in my head and I was like, I wasn't, that was, there's a different part of me. Like, I was like trying to figure out why I couldn't figure shit out at work because like, I didn't have that part of my brain with me, that part of my brain, my soul was with you. And like, it didn't tell me it was leaving, but that was when I was subconscious to this work because my soul's been that for like, for, you know, thousands and thousands of years.

And I wasn't ready to wake up to myself. You know, it's, it's been suggested that there's so much unrest because there are so many kind of lost and ungrounded souls because of the lack of this work. You know, back in the day there was, there was a lot of shamans.

There were a lot of healers. There were a lot of people tapped into these abilities, the psychopomp kind of, you know, um, energy within, but because of this ego, mind, divine ego, whatever we want to call it, it's like, no, we don't do that shit anymore. And people have fear around it.

Cause that's, what's happening when we trigger people, when that, that word shaman idea, shamanism, it's triggering their fears, which is why they attack, but it's sort of been suggested that without this work, you know, it's creating a lot of, a lot of problems, you know, literally people are dying and not being able to pass across because there isn't that, you know, soul to soul support, help them, trust them, right? There's no surrendering and trusting, right? There's no surrendering and trusting that, you know, that the universe has got your back. Um, it's like quick, get like, write me out of prescription for what's exactly going to happen and how do I take the next step? And I'm going to look at my prescription and I'm going to do exactly what the words say instead of like, you need to like, just like almost like flay your own body and let your spirit, like just leave and go towards a light that you can't see what's on the other side. And just trust that the right thing's on the other side.

Like if you told people to do that. That's just like mind blowing Scott. Like we've even fucked up dying, you know, dying is the most natural process, like birth.

And yet now we're fucking, fucking up dying because of this fear thing, because of this control thing. Church started this shit and then science came in and science fucking jumped on the church and fucking business model of you need to follow what we write down. Otherwise it's not true.

Yeah, absolutely. And that's where I believe like the divine ego, like a good way to explain the divine ego is like a person that goes to church and can, can recite every word in the Bible, every verse and say, oh, well that one's wrong because if you take John 32, 21, that says this. So that means you're wrong.

But that person knows the facts from their brain. That's right. Right.

Yeah. But if you say, what's the word this week, they'll say, I need to go and ask the pastor because he's the only one tapped in. So that person's not tapped in.

They're just repeating facts that they've read and haven't been taught to open up and go and know. They think they know, they don't know that they know, and they don't feel that they know. And that the church has them there because that's the business model, because you come and then pay the church for the word.

And they're not going to teach you, like they teach you three quarters, but not the last quarter of how do you be the pastor? How can you sit at home and tap in through prayer and go, what's the word this week? Where's, where's the universe where there's, where's the word going? Because you talking about your towel moment and what's coming up, that's what I call cutting the fat. And that's been coming to me for the last month. Same thing, just like my words.

And a lot of the time I'll tap in and I'll start meditating and getting into that higher state. And with like that week, the next two weeks, I'll get on my social media and I'll be able to see what influences or educators, I think there's a difference between an influencer and an educator, someone that repeats other people's shit and someone that taps in and someone that can know and tell you what's hot right now. But you can see those influences because I've got people and you can see who they're connected to.

And a lot of them aren't connected and they're all saying the same thing that I've been. And I, I call that channel one, like, you know, you tapped in cause the universe or that God energy, you know, that is just going, how do we keep evolving and creating and evolving and creating, you know, you were right. And you created something now who's going to better that.

And who's going to better that. And it's like, we should not be like, Oh my God, you bettered me. Like I only had a minute in the limelight or I had a year in the limelight.

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It should be like, who's going to better me because, and surrendering to a better idea. It's like an orgasm. So, you know, which creates the chart.

Like, I love that. We just keep coming back to that same principle, masculine, feminine integration, sacred union, child birth, new creation. What does that child do? That child has the polarity within.

Yeah. And then creates its own child, which is what you're talking about. Evolution, teach me how to do it so I can do it.

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And instead of people going, no, no, that's my spirit. I think the last generation has fucked us up because that was a generation of, you know, I've got this special thing. I can do it quicker than everyone else at work, but that's what makes me special.

And I keep my job. You got to figure out how to do it. Or, you know, I've had this idea.

If I go and do this idea, I'll make a million dollars. So I'm not going to tell anyone. So this whole generation of people hiding skills from each other that they never fucking monetize or never shared with the world, because that was their special thing.

So we had this. This is why you're here on Mayu, you see. Mayu is a conscious, a platform for conscious creation because there is no holding on.

There is no lack, right? There is only this. Right. And it's like allowing people to come in and share this stuff.

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Yeah. Share their authentic messages. I'll wake up most mornings with a divine download, and that will be what goes to my social media.

And I know that years ago, I would have been on Google checking first to see whether that was OK to even think. I've gone through a little bit of that now. I'm like, man, that's a crazy thought.

I'm like, man, this is creative authenticity. So many people. So I'm like, oh, self-sabotage.

That's a fear, an ego sabotage. Stay safe. You put that out, you're going to get attacked.

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You know, that's an ADHD thing as well. Like, oh, it's stuck to safety. Shiny object.

Oh, pretty. I'm going to go walk the dogs. I don't even know my own fucking idea.

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I think it's another label that has been placed over our beautiful minds and the way that they work uniquely and the gifts that we have and how those gifts don't really fit into the fucking boxes created by society. Do you know what I mean? It's like it's scary. And the thing is that your beautiful, creative authenticity, your unique expression is your soul work.

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It's why it's why your soul's here. I'm feeling your soul dancing right now because it knows that that is truth, right? It is here to express itself in its own beautifully unique way. It is that.

And this is where, you know, taking those experiences that we've had in the past to birth our child, it takes the integration of dark and light. It requires us to come to a place of neutrality in terms of what we've been through. So many people try to heal the past and then cut it off, you know, and it's kind of like it's kind of wrong because it's like we're projecting our polarity onto it so that it doesn't have its wisdom come through, if that makes sense.

Does that make sense? Like all of it's on purpose. All of it has happened on purpose. But because of these ways that society labels things, you know, we hold so much guilt and shame.

I know we got into some deep conversations in Bali at that retreat around the sex rituals, the sex magic, you know, because again, there's so much projection of what is right and wrong. And again, that goes into that beautiful topic of religion and whatever else. And then something that holds so much power suddenly becomes something that we hold so much guilt and shame about.

And so it never has its expression. It never does what it was meant to do. Our bodies have this ancient, sacred wisdom, but it's not doing what it's meant to do.

Yeah, it's not evolving. Like if you got all the emotions and laid them out and said, have I worked on that emotion today? Have I worked on that emotion today? Have I worked on that emotion today, right? Have I allowed that emotion today? Have I allowed it to have expression? You know, it's like, did I learn that off my parents, my community? Or was that emotion like you get online, you tap into another community or another or another, you know, another, like for me, like Brazilians are coming out, like they dance all the time. Like there was no dancing in my family.

Right. So I don't know how, like, and you watch Brazilians, they can swap partners or, you know, I've done salsa dancing and stuff. And you let sex energy come through.

Like, you know, that sex energy. And then you swap partners, but you're not swapping life partners. You're swapping dance partners.

And there's so much projection of what that means. Right. Oh my gosh.

Like they must be like, they're going to go, you know, they're going to go fuck, you know, how dare she put that on him. She's a slut. No, she's dancing and she has a boundary.

They both have a boundary. Like they're just letting it come up and then they're walking away like two waves crashing, like hitting and letting go, you know, because they've trained that energy. They've trained that energy and they've embodied that energy.

And it's about they've gone and done that energy, trained it to embody it. And then they've trained it for periods of time to have the capacity of that energy. So if your container of the body cannot contain that energy, you're going to let it in and you're going to burst.

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Well, that's where the alchemy happens, isn't it? That's how alchemy in minor, you know, it's like taking that base, say something like anger base that you might be seen as a lower vibration, allowing it to move, allowing it to integrate with the loving, nurturing energy of the feminine within the safe container of this masculine energy. Something else births, an expression births from that, you know, and it's beautiful. You bust your own boundaries to create a bigger boundary, bust your boundary to create.

And like you said, if you've got a divine masculine or even a divine feminine holding space, you know, like if that other male, I'm going back to the salsa thing, that other male was like dancing with another, you know, another man's partner, but he was like, it's just a dance, but you could let go. And I'm going to hold space. If, if that was too much and I'm going to step back out of respect, you know, but that allows someone to grow, you know, so true divine feminine would love unconditionally and trust.

This is the thing. And I think, you know, we put a lot of shit onto this unhealthy male expression. You know, we say overbearing, you know, using push and force, but we also need to look at this divine feminine and how much both as men and women, we are allowing that true divine feminine love and nurturing and it's unconditional love.

And the thing is as well, it's like something that again was quite a big, whoa, for me, I was in, I was in a journey, I was journeying and I was really going into what I believe about sex actually. Cause I, you know, I'm walking away from a marriage. I'm thinking, wow, I'm actually going to have to have sex with other people.

Right. And I, and you know, and I, and I was afraid, I felt afraid, I felt afraid. I felt afraid of that connection.

And so I journeyed with it. And it was so strange. I got to this place where I realized that the, the, I had equal power to a male with my energies integrated and balanced.

Right. So it's sort of like, again, it's like one is not weaker than the other. One is not more powerful than the other.

The point is to integrate because in integrating, we have ultimate power, but society has taken that away. Yeah. And when you say it's, it's like having a chest plate up, you put a chest plate up to protect yourself from feeling hurt, like from your heart, you know, from feeling hurt.

Right. So someone comes at you and it's like a spear. Someone comes at you, like people are walking around with spears.

Right. Like going, because if I open up and you say, oh, why are you wearing that shirt? And I'm open of energy. That's like, that's an attack.

Oh, I love the shirt. You know? So if you take that into a bedroom, it's like, someone looks at you because they can't control their judgment. They have perceived ideas of what's perfect, but that's on them, not on you.

And that's their projection they're putting on you because they haven't done enough, deep enough work on themselves. But you wouldn't, from the balanced energy, you wouldn't seek for that validation. That's the thing.

No, you're not chasing sex. You're actually chasing like, if I can put out a cord from my heart to your heart, I'm actually, and then, you know, from my sacral chakra to your sacral chakra and chakra to chakra, we're actually chasing an energetic feeling. So if you could just put a blindfold on and feel your way through and relax, you're actually chasing that deeper connection.

Not the orgasm at the end. Most guys chase the, like, race the orgasm in the first two minutes, most of them. You know? And then they feel empty.

Then they feel empty and like alone and disconnected. Again, a lot of women, more women these days are in there masculine than the men. A hundred percent.

That's what I'm saying. Like we need to look both ways. Yeah.

The men are way more in there feminine, right? And don't know it. And that's where they get that, but they're actually, they don't get that connection. They get the orgasm and then they're empty and they don't know what they don't know, but they're actually just chasing that space.

It's just like, when you go into meditation and we talk about the gap, you know, the gap between the conscious and unconscious and the middle path kind of thing, like the third eye looking through the middle, you're actually chasing that gap between thoughts and just feeling and flowing with the energy. And that's what needs to be taught again. Going into a room and, you know, I'm talking about this, hopefully my partner doesn't get pissed off about this, but you know, we're doing some work on this at the moment and I'm like, honey, you need to stop trying to please me because you're in your head and you're coming at me with a spear trying to please me and make me in the bedroom.

You need to take pleasure from me. She needs to take pleasure from me and make it about her. And if I'm pissing, if I'm not doing something correct for her to go in a chest plate, you know, there's chest plates we put up energetically outside our physical self, but then there's walls inside ourselves that we've put up from social conditioning and even past life traumas that she needs to tap into and tell me about.

So when we get to that, to that, like one of those edges of one of them things, it's going to be a boundary condition and a test. There's going to be a test of, did you do this right or not? You know, and we might take a step in and she freaks out and pushes me out because internally her feeling, her body, her being has not been there for a long time. Sometimes even thousands of years, if you're an old doll and you don't know it.

And you might get there in the best sex you've had in your life, sex, not lovemaking, and you take a step in and you might go, oh my God, it's getting better. And she might shut you out and you might have to pause for a long game and talk about that and say, Hey, can we do that again? And take a step in without you pushing me out. And you can reflect that into so many areas of life.

I think this is why sexual alchemy is so powerful. It's the ultimate love and trust is the ultimate openness. It is, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of, of energy or hierarchy of stuff, Maslow, but he puts sex energy at the top, but it's also the hardest energy to, to control or to, yeah, it's the hardest energy to work with, without sort of losing control.

I suppose that divine ego coming in and going, I'm fucking enjoying this. I'm getting, I'm taking a step in. No, it's how we've been programmed.

The whole, this is the whole thing. Like society has programmed us to, to lose the capacity to hold that, to allow it to ascend and grow. Like you say, like chasing in the orgasm, chasing in the dopamine from the hit, from the social media.

It's like, it's a whole new way of being and bringing this back to shamanism. But it's the ultimate being, it is that space that you talked about. And then the gap between the thought it's the, it's the ability to stop and be, and connect.

Everybody's chasing connection, connections right here, connections in your heart. It's like this game of, it's like catch and kiss, catch you, kiss you, run away again, catch you, kiss you, run away again. It's like they're getting connection, like shit, I got it.

I don't know what to do with it. I'm going to drop it, cause a fight. And then we're going to do it again.

It's like, they're just playing a game of getting connection, fucking it up. Then playing a game of getting connection. Probably on purpose so that you can like bring yourself down to the level of what you believe of yourself and your lack of worth and your ugliness.

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And the level that you've trained at, because you've not got the capacity to feel those feelings in this body because you're so full of shit. When we talked the other day, we came up with a master plan to actually host a retreat. We're going to be hosting a retreat in Perth in a couple of months time.

And we're going to be going deep into this. We're going to be using our beautiful skills, shared skills, but also distinctive skills to really help people to come back into their bodies. That's what we sort of saw and felt when we spoke of.

It's like I've studied all the systems and also studied how to embody these energies. And you've studied like bringing the frequency and alchemy and the sounds and the tones and the breath work. And it's like what I've got and you've got beautifully matched because you've got like the part that I don't, you know, I feel I've got some more to add.

That they just come together and we're both sacred union. Yeah. So what I would love to say is, you know, if anybody has enjoyed this chat today, we are going to put a little link below this to send you some details about this.

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This amazing event coming up in beautiful Australia and one of the most beautiful places in Australia. And yeah, we will send you the details. Is there anything else that you would like to gift the audience today? Any golden nuggets of Aussie shamanism wisdom, Aussie shaman wisdom, freebies, and also let us know where we can find you as well online, because I'm sure that people will be keen to come and hear more of what you're saying.

Yeah. Yeah. Mostly just on like to find me.

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It's mostly just on my Facebook and Instagram. I'm really not that good at computers and stuff. I could get into it.

I advocated that with my last business for eight years. People doing it for me. And it's like I've took my brain and put it off.

So I'm learning it again. I apologize, everyone. If the systems are hard to find through, just send me a direct message.

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So you are the do which, which Instagram do you want to Scott Miyoto? Nice. As you see written here on the on the old screen, Scott Miyoto. And we will like I say, if you click the little link that we're going to put below, we'll flick you information about the event.

And yeah, let us know your thoughts, your insights, your ideas, your feedback, even your constructive criticisms of this conversation. I feel like we've gone off in a thousand different directions. And hopefully you feel more confident about, you know, the power of that masculine feminine balance and and what we're doing at the event to, you know, Scott kind of intimated how we can learn to train ourselves.

You know, it's like we've both got this background and the discipline. So much is about discipline, temperance. I want to say the hardest thing at that time that I studied Muay Thai, I was like, I jumped straight into MMA and just trained five days a week into the cage fight at five months.

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Right. From no training. And I was a massage therapist doing energy work.

So fully in my feminine all day long from being an alcoholic, semi, you know, semi addicted to drugs and definitely an alcoholic masculine in the diesel fitting mining community, you know, and then I was going to being a feminine massage therapist. And then in the morning and then in the mornings and afternoons, I was bringing out my full masculine and like doing fight training. So that was tearing my body from left to right.

Right. Like my beard. And it's just state learn to be in a state and learn more states, which are feelings and let the feelings in, let the feelings in and build the capacity again to hold that feeling.

Yeah. So good. Thank you so much for being here today.

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This has just been so awesome. I'm excited to be working with you more this year. And yeah, this has been Scott Miyota, the Aussie Shaman here on the MyYou.tv podcast.

And I cannot wait to bring you our next episode as well. Thank you for joining us on MyYou. I'm Claire Williamson, and I hope this episode has inspired you on your journey of conscious entrepreneurship.

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